š„ Cristian Canton, New Associate Director of the Barcelona Supercomputing Center š” āMareNostrum 6 by 2029 must feature European technologyā
š āThe free Spanish and Catalan ChatGPT is now mature. Weāre improving it and itās already being used and tested in specific areasā
š āCatalonia will be one of Europeās main players. We will have the BSC, the AI Factory, and the Móra la Nova gigafactoryā
āEurope realises that dependence on Trumpās whims leaves it in an awkward positionā
āWe will see quantum computing with AI, and I think the next 20 years will be extremely interestingā
āGenerative AI has a positive impact because people have become more critical. Thereās no need to be afraid.ā
Cristian Canton, the new associate director of Spainās premier infrastructure for artificial intelligence and a cornerstone of European sovereigntyāthe Barcelona Supercomputing Centerā succeeds Josep Maria Martorell after a decade of growth with MareNostrum 4 and 5. Born in Terrassa in 1980, Canton arrives at BSC following eight years as head of AI at Meta in the U.S., five years as a researcher at Microsoft in the U.S. and Canada, and a brief stint at Vicon working in film AI. With a PhD in computer vision from UPC and expertise in machine learning and AI systems security, he has worked at Facebook and Instagram combating disinformation, election manipulation, child protection, and terrorism.
Are you back in Catalonia to live more calmly and be close to home, or is the BSC opportunity more about logical career progression?
Both factors. After many years in Canada, the U.S., and the U.K., my wife and I agreed: āSomeday we must return.ā And there was the challenge of coming back and doing something interesting. Then BSC contacted me, and I said, āWonderful.ā It fits me perfectly. I wanted to work for my country and contribute to making Catalonia, Spain, and Europe pioneers in AI, supercomputing, and AIādriven science. Itās a logical career step. Iāve always worked in AI for good and to grow societal potential.
Working for the country and making BSC a sovereignty infrastructureādoes that mean Catalan, Spanish, or European sovereignty?
BSC represents more than 50 countries. Itās about doing science here in Catalonia, Spain, and Europe. With the current geopolitical context, achieving sovereignty is crucialāotherwise you depend on others. We depend heavily on American and Asian chipmakers. It would be fantastic to have chips made in Spain or Catalonia. There is also dependence on AI developed outside Europe. Building AI with European values is a key challenge. BSC is critical in the sovereignty race. Weāre one of many European players pushing forward. Iām hopeful Europe will attain a stronger technological position.
Your arrival aligns with the bid for the Móra la Nova AI gigafactory. Is it like winning the lottery?
Actually, there are three projects. First, BSC is a major European supercomputing infrastructure for science and AI. Then comes the AI Factory, already approved, which will offer tools allowing external companies and public administrations to use resources via public callsāsupporting SMEs to adopt AI quickly. Lastly, there's the Móra la Nova gigafactory, which, if awarded, will enhance technological sovereignty and deliver AI services to large enterprises and administrations. Currently we rely on Amazon, Google, etc. If successful, Catalonia and Spain would become top European playersāthanks to BSC, the AI Factory, and this gigafactory. We will collaborate across Europe, and weāre building a strong foundation for technological sovereignty.
Will there be too many companies or not enough, hence a selection process?
The AI Factory is still being built. Weāre taking initial steps to understand how to respond to requests like āI want to build a model to classify tree leaves.ā Some already have models; others are starting from scratch. There is strong demand for compute hours and services. Itās idealāthe machine should run 24/7. We expect high usage, leading to job creation, new SME capabilities, startups, and potentially impacting Spainās GDP through wellātimed investment.
When will the AI Factory be operational?
Next year.
Until the Móra la Nova gigafactory is ready, how will you cope with chip needs and Trump-era tariffs?
Great question. The Spanish stateās proposal, in partnership with Telefónica, Catalan firms, and the Generalitat, will feature non-sovereign technology initially. We lack local capacity to manufacture GPUs. Thatās why Nvidia is on boardāit provides the GPUs. By 2029, MareNostrum 6 must feature European-designed technology. That is our aspiration. Meanwhile, the gigafactory will use Nvidia GPUs. Perhaps the next generation will be European-made. That would be ideal.
Has Trumpās return triggered a positive European reaction?
His comeback has sparked a wake-up call. Rules can change very rapidly nowālike never before. Europe realises dependence on one president's whims puts it in a precarious position. Clearly, technological independence is advantageous. Itās a wake-up call to have a long-term plan B. This healthy competition is positive.
What role does BSC play in this European effort?
Itās pivotal. BSC leads the DARE chip design projectāa European consortium with an initial ā¬240āÆmillion budget. We host a 500āstrong research group working day and night on chip design. Weāve been at it for 20 years.
And in AI?
Weāre starting to train models like Alia and Aina for Spanish, Catalan, and other European languages. That positions us well in Europeās AI landscape. BSC is indispensable in this effort to place Europe firmly in the current geopolitical framework.
Does the Spanish ChatGPT have a release date?
Good question. I have a meeting after this interview to discuss it. We have early versionsāitās mature. Weāre improving it. It has begun to be used and tested in some placesāpilots in hospitals and public bodies. It's a good investment, because language models encapsulate culture via training data. Models like Llama, Gemini, or ChatGPT are trained primarily on AngloāSaxon data, not fully representing European culture. Training models on curated data reflecting European values is criticalāit ensures the model embodies a specific culture and values not found elsewhere. This model will balance AngloāSaxon models.
Will it be an open, free largeālanguage model that continues to learn?
Exactly. An open-source, free model accessible for startups or any use. Itās beneficial to make it public. These models require continuous retraining to stay currentāwith more data. We'll enhance reasoning and support for minority languages. Aina (Catalan), Alia (Spanish and others), and companion models will improve incrementally.
Will Aina and Alia remain competitive as larger models emerge?
Itās about strategy. A LLM is essentially a black box generating inputs and outputs. You can augment it with agent support or retrieval systems. Larger models from big companies may have more resources, but for languages like Catalan, they may underperform. Iāve seen this at Meta: a model can be brilliant in English but weak in Catalan. It depends on coverage. Aina and Alia will address gaps not prioritized by large models. They can be enhanced through partnerships. We donāt always need the largest model. As Bill Gates said: āItās better to bet on the penultimate trend.ā If it works, great. Models from a year ago may already be sufficient, depending on your goals.
That matches the European logic of competing with smaller, more efficient models rather than costly giants.
Absolutely. Thereās also small Llama or small Geminiānot just Mistral. First train a big model to get its performance, then research to make much smaller models that maintain capabilities. This iterative process improves technologyāitās not necessary to have an all-in-one model.
What fields will need the AI Factory in coming months or years?
Several: AI for public administrationsāto improve citizen services; healthāwhich is critical given global strain; services and humanāAI interactions beyond chatbots; mental health; and quantum computing with AI, which I believe will be extremely interesting over the next 20 years.
Please explain quantum computing.
Itās emerging and widely discussed. It offers technology to solve specific problems that standard computers struggle with. Some AI training algorithms are extremely costly. The question is: āIf we used a quantum computer, what could we enhance?ā There are exciting research areas. The EU is investing here tooāitās becoming tangible. Five years ago we spoke of āwinter,ā then generative AI sparked a āeternal spring.ā Now, quantum computing has strong ideas. The next 10ā20 years will be thrilling. BSC will have a critical roleāthatās my hope.
Does frontline optimism contrast with public fear fueled by the media?
There are many dimensions: job market effects, daily life. Like any new technology, it brings benefits and risks. When generative AI emerged, fake news terrified many. Todayās models generate videos even I struggle to detect. But thereās a positive effect: people have grown more critical. Weāre verifying information more carefully. It also unleashes creativity in fields like film. During the industrial revolution, horse wranglers feared carsābut then new jobs emerged. With AI we expect new professions. Thereās no need to fearāinstead, be informed and seek opportunity. Theyāll come, and many. Letās embrace them and see how far we can goāthis wonāt stop.



